I’ve just updated to 9.04 from 8.10 (32bit) and I don’t like notify-osd because when I receive an email in Evolution I like a notification and also I like that an icon remains in the system tray and with notify-osd… yes, I receive the notification but any icon remains in the the system tray indicating new mail

I work with dual monitor and virtual desktops so for me is very useful to have this function of that an icon indicates that there are unread emails.

At the end, I’ve tried the stracciatella-gnome-session and all come back to work perfectly

If the Ubuntu’s message is freedom… ¿why in 9.04 version they obligate all people to use notify-osd and also they don’t allow to configure it? ¿Why they think that I like notify-osd and also that notify-osd must appears in the up-right corner (I did’nt find any way to change this)?

Thank you very much for the ice-cream

Greetings

Miguel

I’m sure there is a better solution lying around .

Although I understand your situation, I still think notify-osd’s behaviour is a wonderful thing. In fact, I was just sick of receiving notifications from my IM client that would not close until I clicked them, and that then would open a window (unless i target the little cross in the top right of the notification). Also, I was getting spammed sometimes, when several persons were talking to me at the same time, receiving emails, etc.

I must say I’m very pleased now that notifications just stay on their ‘corner’ and don’t invade my screen anymore, aswell as the fact that they never break my workflow (for instance, when coding, if there’s a top right notification, I still can click on the right tabs of my text editor, which I couldn’t before).

Now, about the case of the lost actions. I think there are two case of actions that are actually important : asking the user to make a choice *now* (that’s why we notify him that he has to choose, because we need him to choose). Popups do this just as well as notifications, and it isn’t the goal of a notification.

The other kind of action, the one that you were using, is an action that consists of providing the user with a ‘shortcut’ to the window he’s very likely to open after having been notified. Why not have the applications just make their title blink in the ‘window bar’ in the panel ? This way, the user knows he has something to read on this very window, and he can aswell ignore it without it to disturb his workflow as much as invading notifications.

Long time Ubuntu user (previously on Debian), I use Ubuntu simply because I enjoy a GNOME desktop that is well-packaged, recent, and well-supported by 3rd parties. In fact I would probably still be using Debian if 3 or 4 years ago I had have a CD handy when my harddrive crashed . Still I have been pleasantly surprised by Ubuntu’s evolution so far and here I was, installing Jaunty with no idea of what was new.

So I have installed Jaunty two days ago only to discover the horror that is notify-osd and the indicator applet. I’m sorry, because I agree that the goal is laudable, yet under the premise of improving ergonomics the desktop-team made things way, way worse. For instance, I use a GNOME panel at the bottom of my screen (no top panel) and the notifications appear top right. This is how it is specced. I don’t like the notification theme and it’s not themable. This is how it is specced again. I enjoy clicking a Gajim notification to open the chat window. Truly, not the paradigm I’m comfortable with, and from what I’ve read so far most share my opinion (even if I see that it will be enforced even if everyone complain, until people get “used to it anyway”. Isn’t that how Windows lockin works? ). So I ended up removing notify-osd altogether, but then I had no more notifications, and I kinda like them (knowing what song is playing, receiving a message, new updates [reverted the behavior here too), etc).

So I was considering going back to Debian — not to get back notifications, but simply because I like vanilla GNOME. What I like in Ubuntu so far is the packaging, and the fact that most third parties provide a deb archive that requires Ubuntu dependencies (often outdated when running Debian stable, and I don’t like to be bothered with installing new software, I want something that just works).

Yet I am lazy, and truly satisfied with the rest of Jaunty.

I write this long message as a user story for notify-osd. The conclusion for this user story is: Thanks for providing gnome-stracciatella-session, and please, please, keep it working for future upgrades. Ubuntu works well because it has working governance system, but it doesn’t mean that the choices are always right; or that there is a right choice considering the size and variety of the userbase.

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1095928&page=3

Result is a much more pleasant experience, largely because I’ am visually impaired!

One of the greatest things about Ubuntu is the ability to change things to make it “just work for you”! Love it!

Version 0.9.7-0ubuntu2:

* Reupload, previous upload dropped Ubuntu patches, causing
stracciatella-session to use notify-osd instead of notification-daemon.